Lesbian Sex Romp Prompted ‘Public’ Bar Eviction – Can Gay People Act Like Trash In Public?

tv3.co.nz

OH WHAT A SURPRISE.

Public bar management allowed 3 News to view CCTV footage from the evening, although they would not release it because they did not want to damage the womens’ reputation, nor their families.

The footage shows Ms Galbraith and Ms Leadbeater acting inappropriately at the bar and being asked to leave the premises by a bouncer.

The two are seen to be escorted from the bar, some words are exchanged outside before Ms Leadbeater returns to collect her cardigan and meets Ms Galbraith outside, putting her arm around her shoulders.

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DUMB YOUNG GIRLS USED BY UNI Q FOR ATTENTION IN THE WRONG WAY.  SAD.  BUT SOME GREAT COMMENTS HERE ABOUT WHAT GAY PEOPLE CAN GET AWAY WITH AND WHY ARE WE TREATED DIFFERNTLY.  I THINK TACKY BEHAVIOUR IS JUST THAT, GAY OR STRAIGHT.
9 hours ago · Like · 8
Em Rosa Fawcett There’s no reason that all of these issues can’t be targeted. Speaking from personal experience, having something like this happen to you literally feels like shit – being told you don’t and can’t belong – as if we didn’t have enough of that anyway. The fact is that we should all be able to be with our partners in town, actually, we should be able to be with them anywhere without prejudice but you have to start somewhere.
9 hours ago · Like · 8

Marika Tait White privileged baby dykes? Exactly how much of a minority do you have to be for it to be serious? Exactly how discriminated against do you have to be for it to be worth your time? The existence of ‘worse’ discrimination doesn’t negate people’s right to stand up for themselves.

Anastasia Vasiliadis This is about demanding a right for safe spaces for all queer people. Its not like this couple getting kicked out is the first time a queer couple has been kicked out of a ‘straight bar’ or that queer/or trans people etc have recieved some form of harassment on courtney place. This whole issue is not even just about Public. A few years ago I got literally pushed down the stairs after the bouncer tried to kick out my friends who were a lesbian couple out for being publicly affectionate, and I refused to leave so he got aggressive (this was at the Big K). Not to mention another time when I was pashing a girl at another bar on Courtney place and we got kicked out. Other times if I have recieved harassment from straight guys when kissing girls, and that really pisses me off. Thats the main thing that makes me feel uncomfortable about being in straight environments. We dont ask for these things to happen, and I dont see why we should be made to feel unsafe or be treated differently just for being queer. Straight bars shouldn’t be ‘straight bars’ they should be for everyone. Sexuality should not be an issue. We are just asking for ‘the same’ treatment not ‘special’ treatment.
9 hours ago · Like · 8
Houston Selekta Barakat Letting gay students know they’re being supported – do you seriously not see this as helping prevent gay suicide? Your website and comments make you come across as ever-so-slightly mentally challenged Mr Grey..

8 hours ago · Like · 10
Eli Nelson The point of this is to show that Gay, Lesbian or transexual people are not second class citizens. I would have believed that a country that was the first to give women the right to vote, opposed nuclear power, pointless wars as well as apartheid would not support such vile actions, It seems however not all of New Zealands inhabitants share such noble views. What a pity.
6 hours ago · Like · 3
Matthew Ryan Codd Moral relativism is the worst pretend argument since “the Bible says so!”
Just because there are worse problems doesn’t mean that this problem doesn’t matter.
Aside from that, you can’t make the connection between normalised homophobic behaviour like what Rebekah and Jennie endured, and the high rate of LGBT suicide?
6 hours ago · Like · 12
Joanne Robertson I find it hard to believe that you cannot see the correlation between an incident like this alleged one and LGBT youth (and adult) suicide. Very hard to believe…. Do we need to start a support group for Jaded Gays? (because there is nothing sadder than a jaded gay who can’t seem to muster up anger over basic, blatant discrimination.

There is no doubt that an accumulation of negative messages sent to gay people from a young age (many subtle, some in your face) lead to us having higher incidents of depression, anxiety, self harm and suicide.

No one should have to look over their shoulder and ‘scan’ their environment for safety, before they kiss their partner goodbye…

I get that not every gay can be bothered to be a freedom fighter, but don’t stand in the way, bro.
6 hours ago · Like · 7
Steve Gray so kissing in a tacky bar at 3am is worth fighting for? heteronormative aims have never been something I strive for. my point was the media always covering stories about, not being able to kiss in a tacky bar at 3am as if that is a right or a need for our community.
4 hours ago · Like
Steve Gray also, being called a class traitor will win you many friends from the right wing.
4 hours ago · Like
Marika Tait Since when being able to kiss a loved one without being targeted by bigots a heteronormative aim?
4 hours ago · Like · 5
Em Rosa Fawcett It’s not only that we want to be able to kiss our girlfriend/boyfriend in a “tacky bar” as you call it, it’s the principle of the thing – and it’s everything to do with basic human rights – to be able to do something that is an act of love, that is not overly explicit for public view, nor hurting anyone, but is simply a basic human right to be who we are, without fear of prejudice or repercussions for our perfectly normal actions. I don’t know about you but I’m sick of being afraid to do the things straight people take for granted so often. And this is the very root of all the problems that gradually grow to trigger teen suicide – so I might be speaking for myself here, but from my view, it’s not a need for our community, it’s a necessity.
4 hours ago · Like · 4
Barnaby Haszard Morris I like the Likes throughout this thread, they are quite illustrative.
4 hours ago · Like · 1
Anastasia Vasiliadis ‎//so kissing in a tacky bar at 3am is worth fighting for//
Yes. Yes it is – I dont see why kissing in a ‘tacky bar’ is a bad thing, or why it should be policed. Is pashing a bad thing in your opinion? Have you ever considered that some people dont have colleagues, freinds or family that are gay/or queer? Have you not thought about social spaces and how important they are, for meeting other gay people? Why is a public performance of affection such a bad thing?

// heteronormative aims have never been something I strive for.//
THis is not about achieving ‘heteronormative aims’. This is about challenging heteronormative discourses and practices which displace queer folk. As was said before – this is an issue of safe spaces. It is about asking for a space where sexuality is not an issue – its something that is respected.

//my point was the media always covering stories about, not being able to kiss in a tacky bar at 3am as if that is a right or a need for our community.//
Well actually it is a right or need.. as I said above, not everyone has friends/family etc that are supportive, and public spaces (no pun intended) are social spaces that everyone is entitled to feel welcome and respected in.

If you have issues with how the media is covering this story maybe you should consider the institutionalisaton of heteronormativity and how the media, being an institution, is a vehicle for policing how stories are framed based on wider societies values. So issues liek the media ‘not covering enough about our community’ or “what’ issues should or should not get covered about our community, are a seperate issue to do with the process of how editing/by default censorship takes place. Obivously ideologies are revealed when this happens.

Obviously queer suicide is an issue – it results from SOCIAL EXCLUSION and ALIENATION. I think that by saying ‘it should not be normal for lesbians to be kicked out of bars’ is a perfectly legitimate statement if you wnat to develop safe spaces and inclusion for people who might be closet and are otherwise afraid of being excluded and policed and harassed.
3 hours ago · Like · 4
Anastasia Vasiliadis ‎//Have you ever considered that some people dont have colleagues, freinds or family that are gay/or queer? // sorry that was not edited very well – I meant not everyone has friends/family that are queer friendly or people that are openly queer that they can talk to about thing or get support from.
3 hours ago · Like
Joanne Robertson You speak of tacky bars as if the gay are above tacky bars lol… good grief SG, if we can’t kiss, peck, hold hands or cuddle a mate in a tacky Wellington bar at 3.00am, then where/when can we? I ask. This isn’t a heteronormative aim, it’s a human right – one we shouldn’t have to make a fuss to obtain. That’s why they call them ‘rights’
2 hours ago · Like · 1
Vex Chat-Blanc Lol, you write a blog with those literary skills?